Episode 179

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13th Apr 2025

[179] Risk and the ROC Solution: What to Know for Growth

In this episode of TubbTalk, Richard speaks to Matt Middleton-Leal, Managing Director, EMEA North of Qualys, a pioneering and disruptive cloud-based IT, security and compliance solutions provider.

Matt shares his journey in the MSP industry and what studying aeronautics taught him about risk management. He also explains who Qualys are and what they do, before digging into risk and risk management.

He and Richard discuss what MSPs are missing when it comes to risk, and whether or not their clients fully understand its importance. From there, Matt explains why Qualys provide a Risk Operations Centre (ROC) solution and how that works.

He shares how a ROC can be an opportunity for MSPs, but why they need a mindset shift first. Richard asks Matt why he thinks some businesses are investing in risk management, but why there’s reluctance from some clients.

They also discuss governance, using ROC to reduce CISO burnout, and demonstrating how you’re helping clients with risk mitigation. Matt also shares what the experience of being a Qualys partner is like for an MSP.

Finally, Richard asks Matt what he does outside of work and how he keeps his cybersecurity knowledge up to date, what’s next for Qualys and what Matt sees as the future of cybersecurity.

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TubbTalk: The Podcast for Managed Service Providers
Putting Managed Service Providers back in control!
Richard Tubb has been a leader and keynote speaker in the MSP community for the last two decades. At the helm of media company and MSP advisory business Tubblog, Richard loves to showcase tech companies disrupting the industry, as well as shining a light on new tools you might not be aware of.

His long-running and successful interview-style show, TubbTalk, features fireside style chats with the CEOs and CTOs of these businesses, to dig deep into how they got started in the industry, what inspired them to start something new and what their advice would be to anyone who wants to do the same.

But it's not all tech focused! As a former MSP owner himself, Richard knows that there are many facets to being a business owner, which is why his guests reflect that too.

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Richard Tubb is one of the best-known experts within the global IT Managed Service Provider (MSP) community. He launched and sold his own MSP business before creating a leading MSP media and consultancy practice. Richard helps IT business owner’s take back control by freeing up their time and building a business that can run without them. He’s the author of the book “The IT Business Owner’s Survival Guide” and writer of the award-winning blog www.tubblog.co.uk